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		<title>By: Organizations and Markets &#187; Patently Silly</title>
		<link>http://organizationsandmarkets.com/2006/07/11/intellectual-property-the-new-backlash/#comment-956</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Organizations and Markets &#187; Patently Silly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 15:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] It&#8217;s a bit unfair to interrupt our serious discussion of intellectual property by taking cheap shots at the US Patent Office, but I can&#8217;t resist plugging Patently Silly by Daniel Wright and Alex Eben Meyer. You&#8217;d be surprised what the USPTO considers unique, useful, and non-obvious. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] It&#8217;s a bit unfair to interrupt our serious discussion of intellectual property by taking cheap shots at the US Patent Office, but I can&#8217;t resist plugging Patently Silly by Daniel Wright and Alex Eben Meyer. You&#8217;d be surprised what the USPTO considers unique, useful, and non-obvious. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: JC</title>
		<link>http://organizationsandmarkets.com/2006/07/11/intellectual-property-the-new-backlash/#comment-785</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jul 2006 22:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hmm .. Laurent&#039;s message popped into the middle of this thread.

The issue here is non-rivalrousness - sometime known as &#039;public goods&#039;.  

Clearly the ecnomic notion of property collapses without some form of scarcity.  For most goods, such as corn, their materiality supports their rivalrousness.  Immaterial goods have a problem.  There is no point in having any law about such goods unless they can be rendered rivalrous, and that is what patents and other IP legislation is designed to achieve.  Clearly, as technology evolves, it sometimes renders the law ineffective, as we saw with Napster.  But this cannot be grounds for denying the need.

Whether it is, in fact, necessary for a society to implement such legislations seems to me an empirical matter rather than an economic one.  After all the notions of property are grounded at law and in no other way.

Likewise it seems remarkable to me that Hayek should make so free with the struggles writers and composers have with making a living, especially when they are so vulnerable to publishers ripping them off and property-izing their work by packaging it.  Why on earth should the publishers&#039; investment be more worthy of protection than the author&#039;s or the composer&#039;s?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm .. Laurent&#8217;s message popped into the middle of this thread.</p>
<p>The issue here is non-rivalrousness &#8211; sometime known as &#8216;public goods&#8217;.  </p>
<p>Clearly the ecnomic notion of property collapses without some form of scarcity.  For most goods, such as corn, their materiality supports their rivalrousness.  Immaterial goods have a problem.  There is no point in having any law about such goods unless they can be rendered rivalrous, and that is what patents and other IP legislation is designed to achieve.  Clearly, as technology evolves, it sometimes renders the law ineffective, as we saw with Napster.  But this cannot be grounds for denying the need.</p>
<p>Whether it is, in fact, necessary for a society to implement such legislations seems to me an empirical matter rather than an economic one.  After all the notions of property are grounded at law and in no other way.</p>
<p>Likewise it seems remarkable to me that Hayek should make so free with the struggles writers and composers have with making a living, especially when they are so vulnerable to publishers ripping them off and property-izing their work by packaging it.  Why on earth should the publishers&#8217; investment be more worthy of protection than the author&#8217;s or the composer&#8217;s?</p>
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		<title>By: ajbadger</title>
		<link>http://organizationsandmarkets.com/2006/07/11/intellectual-property-the-new-backlash/#comment-784</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jul 2006 21:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you for the information. I found it very useful.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the information. I found it very useful.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul D</title>
		<link>http://organizationsandmarkets.com/2006/07/11/intellectual-property-the-new-backlash/#comment-781</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul D]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jul 2006 13:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Now that the Internet lets people share, produce, and modify culture so easily, there&#039;s a bit of an awakening. Made-up property (copyrights, patents) only &quot;works&quot; if the big intellectual monopoly corporations control what the rest of us do with our real property.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that the Internet lets people share, produce, and modify culture so easily, there&#8217;s a bit of an awakening. Made-up property (copyrights, patents) only &#8220;works&#8221; if the big intellectual monopoly corporations control what the rest of us do with our real property.</p>
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		<title>By: Jüri Saar</title>
		<link>http://organizationsandmarkets.com/2006/07/11/intellectual-property-the-new-backlash/#comment-780</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jüri Saar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jul 2006 12:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for all the links.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for all the links.</p>
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		<title>By: JC</title>
		<link>http://organizationsandmarkets.com/2006/07/11/intellectual-property-the-new-backlash/#comment-778</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jul 2006 10:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yep.  Just fine now.  Thanks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep.  Just fine now.  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Laurent GUERBY</title>
		<link>http://organizationsandmarkets.com/2006/07/11/intellectual-property-the-new-backlash/#comment-774</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Laurent GUERBY]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jul 2006 08:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The funny thing about patents is that most libertarians and &quot;small government&quot; advocates are big fans of them , see for example &lt;a href=&quot;http://cafehayek.typepad.com/hayek/2006/03/a_simple_rule_f.html
&quot;&gt;Cafe Hayek&lt;/a&gt;


Or &lt;a href=&quot;http://jeffreyalanmiron.typepad.com/jeffrey_alan_miron/2006/07/patents_generic.html
&quot;&gt;the case for a small government&lt;/a&gt;


For typical economists nonsense about IP, see &lt;a href=&quot;http://econlog.econlib.org/archives/2006/07/a_nice_statemen.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;econlog&lt;/a&gt;:


My favourite Hayek quote:

&lt;blockquote&gt;
    Just to illustrate how great out ignorance of the optimum forms of delimitation of various rights remains - despite our confidence in the indispensability of the general institution of several property - a few remarks about one particuilar form of property may be made. [...]

    The difference between these and other kinds of property rights is this: while ownership of material goods guides the user of scarce means to their most important uses, in the case of immaterial goods such as literary productions and technological inventions the ability to produce them is also limited, yet once they have come into existence, they can be indefinitely multiplied and can be made scarce only by law in order to create an inducement to produce such ideas. Yet it is not obvious that such forced scarcity is the most effective way to stimulate the human creative process. I doubt whether there exists a single great work of literature which we would not possess had the author been unable to obtain an exclusive copyright for it; it seems to me that the case for copyright must rest almost entirely on the circumstance that such exceedingly useful works as encyclopaedias, dictionaries, textbooks and other works of reference could not be produced if, once they existed, they could freely be reproduced.

    Similarly, recurrent re-examinations of the problem have not demonstrated that the obtainability of patents of invention actually enhances the flow of new technical knowledge rather than leading to wasteful concentration of research on problems whose solution in the near future can be foreseen and where, in consequence of the law, anyone who hits upon a solution a moment before the next gains the right to its exclusive use for a prolonged period.

    The Fatal Conceit: The Errors of Socialism, 1988 (p. 35) Friedrich von Hayek
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The funny thing about patents is that most libertarians and &#8220;small government&#8221; advocates are big fans of them , see for example <a href="http://cafehayek.typepad.com/hayek/2006/03/a_simple_rule_f.html<br />
">Cafe Hayek</a></p>
<p>Or <a href="http://jeffreyalanmiron.typepad.com/jeffrey_alan_miron/2006/07/patents_generic.html<br />
">the case for a small government</a></p>
<p>For typical economists nonsense about IP, see <a href="http://econlog.econlib.org/archives/2006/07/a_nice_statemen.html" rel="nofollow">econlog</a>:</p>
<p>My favourite Hayek quote:</p>
<blockquote><p>
    Just to illustrate how great out ignorance of the optimum forms of delimitation of various rights remains &#8211; despite our confidence in the indispensability of the general institution of several property &#8211; a few remarks about one particuilar form of property may be made. [...]</p>
<p>    The difference between these and other kinds of property rights is this: while ownership of material goods guides the user of scarce means to their most important uses, in the case of immaterial goods such as literary productions and technological inventions the ability to produce them is also limited, yet once they have come into existence, they can be indefinitely multiplied and can be made scarce only by law in order to create an inducement to produce such ideas. Yet it is not obvious that such forced scarcity is the most effective way to stimulate the human creative process. I doubt whether there exists a single great work of literature which we would not possess had the author been unable to obtain an exclusive copyright for it; it seems to me that the case for copyright must rest almost entirely on the circumstance that such exceedingly useful works as encyclopaedias, dictionaries, textbooks and other works of reference could not be produced if, once they existed, they could freely be reproduced.</p>
<p>    Similarly, recurrent re-examinations of the problem have not demonstrated that the obtainability of patents of invention actually enhances the flow of new technical knowledge rather than leading to wasteful concentration of research on problems whose solution in the near future can be foreseen and where, in consequence of the law, anyone who hits upon a solution a moment before the next gains the right to its exclusive use for a prolonged period.</p>
<p>    The Fatal Conceit: The Errors of Socialism, 1988 (p. 35) Friedrich von Hayek
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		<title>By: Peter Klein</title>
		<link>http://organizationsandmarkets.com/2006/07/11/intellectual-property-the-new-backlash/#comment-772</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter Klein]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jul 2006 03:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry about that, the link should work now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry about that, the link should work now.</p>
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		<title>By: JC</title>
		<link>http://organizationsandmarkets.com/2006/07/11/intellectual-property-the-new-backlash/#comment-771</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jul 2006 02:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[PS the Desrochers link seems to be broken.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS the Desrochers link seems to be broken.</p>
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		<title>By: JC</title>
		<link>http://organizationsandmarkets.com/2006/07/11/intellectual-property-the-new-backlash/#comment-770</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jul 2006 02:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One of the intriguing aspects of patents is that they are the vestigial remains of the mercantilist policies that Adam Smith was so anxious to attack as inefficient.  

The history of their transportation to the US, and of the various political shenaginins involved, is interesting and revealing for those of us who argue that the declaration that &#039;markets are efficient and a-political&#039; is itself a profoundly political and interest-oriented statement.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the intriguing aspects of patents is that they are the vestigial remains of the mercantilist policies that Adam Smith was so anxious to attack as inefficient.  </p>
<p>The history of their transportation to the US, and of the various political shenaginins involved, is interesting and revealing for those of us who argue that the declaration that &#8216;markets are efficient and a-political&#8217; is itself a profoundly political and interest-oriented statement.</p>
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