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	<title>Comments on: Marx and the Marxists</title>
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		<title>By: David Hoopes</title>
		<link>http://organizationsandmarkets.com/2007/01/02/marx-and-the-marxists/#comment-88537</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Hoopes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2011 04:04:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think the link to Kliman&#039;s (no longer) new book is broken. Here is the link to his book on his web site. 

http://akliman.squarespace.com/reclaiming/

Interesting that the first comments on this post are four years after the post. Must have taken time to sink in.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the link to Kliman&#8217;s (no longer) new book is broken. Here is the link to his book on his web site. </p>
<p><a href="http://akliman.squarespace.com/reclaiming/" rel="nofollow">http://akliman.squarespace.com/reclaiming/</a></p>
<p>Interesting that the first comments on this post are four years after the post. Must have taken time to sink in.</p>
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		<title>By: K.</title>
		<link>http://organizationsandmarkets.com/2007/01/02/marx-and-the-marxists/#comment-88518</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[K.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 17:47:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Peter Klein: I&#039;ve read Gordon&#039;s book. Excellent, devastating critique of analytical Marxists. But Cockshot, Cottrell and others, are &quot;hardcore&quot; Marxists. The &quot;real followers&quot; that interpret Marx as &quot;what he said, is what he meant&quot; and this are the guys who are &quot;proving&quot; the &quot;scientific&quot; status of LTV.
David Gordon: Yap, I&#039;ve heard about that Kliman and Salerno are teaching on Pace. This is more intriging, because I am sure that Salerno heard about this guys and know their arguments (Cockshot and Cottrell). Why nobody is responding to them is little strange, because they are still arguing about the validity of LTV and are attacking the Bohm-Bawerks&#039;s arguments. Is this mean that for the Austrians the debate is finished? I&#039;ve read Bohm-Bawerk&#039;s critique and I think that it is &quot;the last word&quot;, but I believe that it is not very good idea to let spare space for demagogues to be spread all over again. 
p.s. And I am very much aware that Austrian (as I consider myself, a young Austrian:)) have greater opponents right now (Keynes, Krugman, etc.), but, still ... if somebody know about some Austrian that respond to Cockshot and Cottrell let me know.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter Klein: I&#8217;ve read Gordon&#8217;s book. Excellent, devastating critique of analytical Marxists. But Cockshot, Cottrell and others, are &#8220;hardcore&#8221; Marxists. The &#8220;real followers&#8221; that interpret Marx as &#8220;what he said, is what he meant&#8221; and this are the guys who are &#8220;proving&#8221; the &#8220;scientific&#8221; status of LTV.<br />
David Gordon: Yap, I&#8217;ve heard about that Kliman and Salerno are teaching on Pace. This is more intriging, because I am sure that Salerno heard about this guys and know their arguments (Cockshot and Cottrell). Why nobody is responding to them is little strange, because they are still arguing about the validity of LTV and are attacking the Bohm-Bawerks&#8217;s arguments. Is this mean that for the Austrians the debate is finished? I&#8217;ve read Bohm-Bawerk&#8217;s critique and I think that it is &#8220;the last word&#8221;, but I believe that it is not very good idea to let spare space for demagogues to be spread all over again.<br />
p.s. And I am very much aware that Austrian (as I consider myself, a young Austrian:)) have greater opponents right now (Keynes, Krugman, etc.), but, still &#8230; if somebody know about some Austrian that respond to Cockshot and Cottrell let me know.</p>
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		<title>By: David Gordon</title>
		<link>http://organizationsandmarkets.com/2007/01/02/marx-and-the-marxists/#comment-88515</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Gordon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 16:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know of any Austrian economist who has responded to Kliman&#039;s work. (Incidentally, Joe Salerno and Kliman both teach at Pace.) His work criticizes the neo-Ricardian interpreters of Marx, e.g., Ian Steedman, and the discussion of his book has largely been confined to the neo-Ricardians and their opponents]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know of any Austrian economist who has responded to Kliman&#8217;s work. (Incidentally, Joe Salerno and Kliman both teach at Pace.) His work criticizes the neo-Ricardian interpreters of Marx, e.g., Ian Steedman, and the discussion of his book has largely been confined to the neo-Ricardians and their opponents</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Klein</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter Klein]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 15:12:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[David Gordon&#039;s 1990 book Resurrecting Marx deals with the &quot;analytical Marxists&quot; G.A. Cohen, Jon Elster, and John Roemer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Gordon&#8217;s 1990 book Resurrecting Marx deals with the &#8220;analytical Marxists&#8221; G.A. Cohen, Jon Elster, and John Roemer.</p>
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		<title>By: K.</title>
		<link>http://organizationsandmarkets.com/2007/01/02/marx-and-the-marxists/#comment-88507</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[K.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 10:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Does some Austrian economist, respond to the &quot;modern&quot; arguments of the Marxists? I know that we believe that Bohm-Bawerk finished the job, but i think it is wrong to ignore the &quot;modern&quot; Marxists and leave them space to spread the demagogue.

I found out that some Nitzman and Bichler raised very interesting comments against their &quot;empirical testing of LTV as scientific theory&quot;.Of course, Paul Cockshot and Allin Cottrell tried to respond to this, but except their mathematicall equations and similar stuff, I think that their response is weak.
What do you think about this (the first question and the second comment)?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does some Austrian economist, respond to the &#8220;modern&#8221; arguments of the Marxists? I know that we believe that Bohm-Bawerk finished the job, but i think it is wrong to ignore the &#8220;modern&#8221; Marxists and leave them space to spread the demagogue.</p>
<p>I found out that some Nitzman and Bichler raised very interesting comments against their &#8220;empirical testing of LTV as scientific theory&#8221;.Of course, Paul Cockshot and Allin Cottrell tried to respond to this, but except their mathematicall equations and similar stuff, I think that their response is weak.<br />
What do you think about this (the first question and the second comment)?</p>
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