Comments on: The University of Phoenix and the Economic Organization of Higher Education http://organizationsandmarkets.com/2007/02/12/the-university-of-phoenix-and-the-economic-organization-of-higher-education/ Economics of organizations, strategy, entrepreneurship, innovation, and more Wed, 15 Feb 2012 21:27:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Maybe the University of Missouri Isn’t For You « entrepreneurship@McQuinn http://organizationsandmarkets.com/2007/02/12/the-university-of-phoenix-and-the-economic-organization-of-higher-education/#comment-88855 Thu, 05 Jan 2012 16:27:28 +0000 http://organizationsandmarkets.com/2007/02/12/the-university-of-phoenix-and-the-economic-organization-of-higher-education/#comment-88855 [...] though, I am a big fan of DeVry and others like it. Their product is quite different from that offered by the University of Missouri and other [...]

]]> By: Jean http://organizationsandmarkets.com/2007/02/12/the-university-of-phoenix-and-the-economic-organization-of-higher-education/#comment-80416 Mon, 26 Jul 2010 04:13:47 +0000 http://organizationsandmarkets.com/2007/02/12/the-university-of-phoenix-and-the-economic-organization-of-higher-education/#comment-80416 I second that. I am presently with U of P and I find the pace, teaching, materials, faculties, and etc. professional, updated, top of the line, and student orient staff.
According to 5. Sandy Vensland | 13 February 2007 at 2:02 pm….”students get out of their education what THEY put into it. When students evaluate my performance in the classroom, I have seen time and time, again, an interesting phenomenon. Students who put everything they have into their educational process give me very high performance ratings. Students who fail to put effort into their assignments and tests give me low ratings. So in essence, I am not evaluated on MY performance in the classroom, but on theirs.” This is very true. This needs to stop!

Jean

]]> By: paul http://organizationsandmarkets.com/2007/02/12/the-university-of-phoenix-and-the-economic-organization-of-higher-education/#comment-79445 Sun, 04 Apr 2010 06:38:47 +0000 http://organizationsandmarkets.com/2007/02/12/the-university-of-phoenix-and-the-economic-organization-of-higher-education/#comment-79445 I apologize, my previous post should read:

Please, Google “University of Georgia scam” and so on…what’s the difference?

This company is overpriced, it over promises, and devalues higher education in America.

]]> By: paul http://organizationsandmarkets.com/2007/02/12/the-university-of-phoenix-and-the-economic-organization-of-higher-education/#comment-79444 Sun, 04 Apr 2010 06:36:10 +0000 http://organizationsandmarkets.com/2007/02/12/the-university-of-phoenix-and-the-economic-organization-of-higher-education/#comment-79444 University of Phoenix is a scam and defrauds the American taxpayers. This business should not recieve a dime from Title 10 funding. The university MBA program is not AACSB accredited. The UoP is not an institution of higher education, it is a company that answers to shareholders. I would rather attend a local community college than attend this company.

Please, Google “University of Phoenix scam” or “…fraud” or “…terrible” or “…inflates grades.”

Now, Google “Univeristy of Georgia scam” and so on…what’s the difference.

This company is overprices, it over promises, and devalues higher education in America.

]]> By: David Hoopes http://organizationsandmarkets.com/2007/02/12/the-university-of-phoenix-and-the-economic-organization-of-higher-education/#comment-78752 Sat, 16 Jan 2010 07:46:43 +0000 http://organizationsandmarkets.com/2007/02/12/the-university-of-phoenix-and-the-economic-organization-of-higher-education/#comment-78752 The key point above is that you worked your ass off and got a lot out of going to school. Perhaps if you got to do it over again you would go somewhere else.

If you apply your work ethic to finding and doing a job it will turn out. Plenty of very successful people don’t finish school at all.

When you go on to grad school: 1) Prepare for GMATs as best you can; 2) Find a school that really fits your needs; 3) You don’t say how old you are or how much work experience you have but…..you get A LOT more out of an MBA program if you have 4 or 5 years work experience.

You’ll be great! Effort and focus are more important then anything else. Really really.

]]> By: Brenda http://organizationsandmarkets.com/2007/02/12/the-university-of-phoenix-and-the-economic-organization-of-higher-education/#comment-78751 Sat, 16 Jan 2010 02:05:59 +0000 http://organizationsandmarkets.com/2007/02/12/the-university-of-phoenix-and-the-economic-organization-of-higher-education/#comment-78751 I am BS Marketing candidate with 2 1/2 weeks left. I have been with UoP since March 2007. Prior to that I attended Axia (Apollo’s Associate program). I did not receive my Associate degree as I was convinced by UoP enrollment counselors to not waste my time- just go on for the Bachelor’s. I took their advice and started my BS program. And what a ride it has been. First of all, anyone who reads this post should know that, personally, I am very secure in the value of my education. But, I give very little credit to the UoP. I worked my rear off for this degree and from the start, I set a goal to graduate with honors. I am proud that my GPA is 3.9. It was all the effort that I applied. Unfortunately, I feel as if I may have earned the degrees for many of my peers (team members). Not all, because I have met many students who I believe are absolutely brilliant. They taught me a great deal. However, I am not surprised by all the negative criticisms that the University has received especially the fact that the enrollment counselor’s main source of pay (not sure if this is true today) was based on the number of enrollments they had for a given period. This explains the many students who barely could read or write that I ended up on a team with. My academic advisers assured me that students such as this are usually weeded out after the first few courses. That struck me as odd because my grade is based at least in part by the effort and skill of team members. A student who can not speak the English language, or write it, has no place in a US higher learning institution. But, on more than one occasion there were students who wrote essays in broken English! The only reason we got the grades that we did (A’s and B’s) is because I elected myself as the editor, and what an ordeal. If I changed their improper English, I got scolded by the instructor. After a while, I finally gave up on the editing. I was damned if I did and damned if I didn’t. I can not tell you the headaches, nor the volume of Tylenol I have been through since my start at UoP. For the teaming aspect alone I would not attend this institution. I plan to go on for my Masters, but will not go through UoP to do so. Recall how I said I am confident in the value of my education? Well, it really doesn’t matter what I think of my education now does it? What matters is how managers and executives looking to fill their marketing position’s feel about UoP and the quality of students they produce. However, now that we are in a depressed economy, and so many people holding Bachelor degrees are looking for employment, I am concerned about how my degree will measure up to the degrees earned at traditional schools practicing less controversial business practices.

]]> By: Moby Dick http://organizationsandmarkets.com/2007/02/12/the-university-of-phoenix-and-the-economic-organization-of-higher-education/#comment-75963 Mon, 09 Nov 2009 00:30:10 +0000 http://organizationsandmarkets.com/2007/02/12/the-university-of-phoenix-and-the-economic-organization-of-higher-education/#comment-75963 The University of Phoenix functions under a culture or fear and intimidation. Students are intimidated into signng up of extra classes which are not related to their specialization whereas staff if intmidated into trying to sign up prospective students by hook or by crook. The faculty is not spared either and professional teachers who try to give the student’s their money’s worth in education are often sidelined and insted preference is given to those who indulge in brown nosing the administration, even if these teachers may not be good teachers and get poor reviews from the students.

This is not the opinion of one but many teachers who give up valuable time from their high paying professions, to help adult students in their quest for higher education, even at low monetary teaching compensations.

Perhaps fear is the best way of running a business.

]]> By: kevin http://organizationsandmarkets.com/2007/02/12/the-university-of-phoenix-and-the-economic-organization-of-higher-education/#comment-72159 Fri, 21 Nov 2008 23:24:22 +0000 http://organizationsandmarkets.com/2007/02/12/the-university-of-phoenix-and-the-economic-organization-of-higher-education/#comment-72159 Education is a complex good/product/service/artifact and using mass production methods can only work if what the student wants is tuition of a set standard to standardised material. But if they wanted that, why not buy a textbook and read it or watch a few documentaries. Ah, I forget, they want the stamp of approval of an educational institution. I once asked my set of MBA students whether they would prefer a. the diploma without the need to attend classes, do any work or pass any exams; or b. excellent classes, great lecturers, deep insights and no diploma. Guess what they all wanted? So perhaps mass production is the answer – why don’t we just print out their pieces of paper and issue them on submission of a fee oh, I forgot again, we already have UOP.

]]> By: mari http://organizationsandmarkets.com/2007/02/12/the-university-of-phoenix-and-the-economic-organization-of-higher-education/#comment-70380 Mon, 19 May 2008 16:18:13 +0000 http://organizationsandmarkets.com/2007/02/12/the-university-of-phoenix-and-the-economic-organization-of-higher-education/#comment-70380 I am sorry, it should have read financial analyst.

]]> By: mari http://organizationsandmarkets.com/2007/02/12/the-university-of-phoenix-and-the-economic-organization-of-higher-education/#comment-70377 Sun, 18 May 2008 23:58:23 +0000 http://organizationsandmarkets.com/2007/02/12/the-university-of-phoenix-and-the-economic-organization-of-higher-education/#comment-70377 I too graduated from UOP with my Masters in 2004. I have a very great job as a financial analysis . While attending UOP, I learned so much from other students, who were mostly working professionals. The discussions were so indepth and filled with real world experiences. The reason I am stating this is because I was very impressed with the caliber of knowledge some of my classmates were bringing to the discussion. These were people who were managers, and seasoned employees of some very reputable companies. I, like the poster a few comments above, also loved the fact that the professors were teaching on subjects they knew through work. They were doing and performing the job on a daily basis bringing real relevance to the subject,and not just teaching subjects they learned about while pursuing a teaching degree. Though the class discussions, I felt the passion some of my professors had for the subject because they are doing a job they loved and fetl passionate about. The team work part of the curriculum was very effectual for me because it was modeled off of what really goes on in the real world in regards to business projects. In order for a project to be successful, there has to be a team assembled to get it done. As with any team you are going to have your slackers who may ride along for the time being, eventually that person gets caught because they will have to do their own individual project and if they consistently don’t deliver , then it is clear that they are not operating up to standard. I agree that a degree from the UOP is not for everyone. I think it suits those individuals who are more open to independent learning and to those who like new challenges and experiences. I got my undergrad from a brick and mortar institution and my grad from UOP. I can truly say that I got more of a well rounded education at UOP and found the professors to be more knowledgeable on the subjects from a real world point of view.

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