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	<title>Comments on: Shane Interview in Business Week</title>
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		<title>By: Peter Klein</title>
		<link>http://organizationsandmarkets.com/2008/01/24/shane-interview-in-business-week/#comment-69289</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Klein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 03:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Lachmann has certainly enhanced my understanding of entrepreneurship, but indirectly, through his work on capital structure (Lachmann, 1956), as emphasized &lt;a href="http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-6486.2007.00724.x" rel="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. I don't see Lachmann having a distinct theory of entrepreneurship per se, in the sense that Schumpeter, Knight, and Kirzner can be said to have one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Lachmann has certainly enhanced my understanding of entrepreneurship, but indirectly, through his work on capital structure (Lachmann, 1956), as emphasized <a href="http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-6486.2007.00724.x" rel="nofollow">here</a>. I don&#8217;t see Lachmann having a distinct theory of entrepreneurship per se, in the sense that Schumpeter, Knight, and Kirzner can be said to have one.</p>
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		<title>By: abusinessprofessor</title>
		<link>http://organizationsandmarkets.com/2008/01/24/shane-interview-in-business-week/#comment-69272</link>
		<dc:creator>abusinessprofessor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 20:43:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter, I noticed you said "entrepreneurship in the Schumpeterian, Knightian, or Kirznerian senses" referring to Schumpeter, Knight and Kirzner's view of entrepreneurship, and left out Lachmann. I know you are very familiar with Ludwig Lachmann's work, so  am I missing something here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter, I noticed you said &#8220;entrepreneurship in the Schumpeterian, Knightian, or Kirznerian senses&#8221; referring to Schumpeter, Knight and Kirzner&#8217;s view of entrepreneurship, and left out Lachmann. I know you are very familiar with Ludwig Lachmann&#8217;s work, so  am I missing something here?</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Klein</title>
		<link>http://organizationsandmarkets.com/2008/01/24/shane-interview-in-business-week/#comment-69265</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Klein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 17:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian, I do recommend spending time with those Foss-Klein papers. But do not do so immediately before driving, consuming alcoholic beverages, or operating heavy machinery.

Seriously, you raise a good point. What I mean is that entrepreneurship in the Schumpeterian, Knightian, or Kirznerian senses (what I call "functional," versus "occupational" or "structural" concepts) manifests itself in many ways, not only the establishment of new ventures. As we interpret Knight, judgment is a ubiquitous activity that is tied to resource ownership, such that owners of existing enterprises exercise judgment as much as those who establish new ventures. 

But I agree that creativity and innovation can be conceived in a narrow sense, as activities that business owners or founders do sometimes, but not all the time. (Alertness, as I read Kirzner, is more of an every day phenomenon, like Knightian judgment.) 

Nicolai also distinguish (perhaps not consistently or clearly enough) between a general, loose sense of judgment that all people who owns resources (including their human capital) do daily, and a more specific sense that applies to "business people."

BTW, everybody, I meant to link to an earlier post by Brian on this topic:

http://managementrandd.blogspot.com/2008/01/reality-of-entrepreneurship.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian, I do recommend spending time with those Foss-Klein papers. But do not do so immediately before driving, consuming alcoholic beverages, or operating heavy machinery.</p>
<p>Seriously, you raise a good point. What I mean is that entrepreneurship in the Schumpeterian, Knightian, or Kirznerian senses (what I call &#8220;functional,&#8221; versus &#8220;occupational&#8221; or &#8220;structural&#8221; concepts) manifests itself in many ways, not only the establishment of new ventures. As we interpret Knight, judgment is a ubiquitous activity that is tied to resource ownership, such that owners of existing enterprises exercise judgment as much as those who establish new ventures. </p>
<p>But I agree that creativity and innovation can be conceived in a narrow sense, as activities that business owners or founders do sometimes, but not all the time. (Alertness, as I read Kirzner, is more of an every day phenomenon, like Knightian judgment.) </p>
<p>Nicolai also distinguish (perhaps not consistently or clearly enough) between a general, loose sense of judgment that all people who owns resources (including their human capital) do daily, and a more specific sense that applies to &#8220;business people.&#8221;</p>
<p>BTW, everybody, I meant to link to an earlier post by Brian on this topic:</p>
<p><a href="http://managementrandd.blogspot.com/2008/01/reality-of-entrepreneurship.html" rel="nofollow">http://managementrandd.blogspot.com/2008/01/reality-of-entrepreneurship.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Brian McCann</title>
		<link>http://organizationsandmarkets.com/2008/01/24/shane-interview-in-business-week/#comment-69264</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian McCann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 16:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it very interesting that you describe a business startup definition of entrepreneurship to be "narrow" compared to the "broader" notions of creativity, innovation, etc.

I tend to think of it in the exact opposite way.  How much business behavior is really creative or innovative?  If we adopt a Schumpeterian definition of entrepreneurship, I'm not confident that much business activity would qualify.  In contrast, using a startup definition allows to examine quite a lbit more activity.

To the extent that I am familiar with it, I agree that your judgment-related definition is broader than an innovation-dependent view.  But when judgment is defined as "decision-making when the range of possible future outcomes, let alone the likelihood of individual outcomes, is unknown," it's not entirely clear to me how this is differentiated from "business."  I suppose I need to read those Klein-Foss papers more closely.

And by the way, I strongly recommend Shane's book, even to those who are specialists in the field.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it very interesting that you describe a business startup definition of entrepreneurship to be &#8220;narrow&#8221; compared to the &#8220;broader&#8221; notions of creativity, innovation, etc.</p>
<p>I tend to think of it in the exact opposite way.  How much business behavior is really creative or innovative?  If we adopt a Schumpeterian definition of entrepreneurship, I&#8217;m not confident that much business activity would qualify.  In contrast, using a startup definition allows to examine quite a lbit more activity.</p>
<p>To the extent that I am familiar with it, I agree that your judgment-related definition is broader than an innovation-dependent view.  But when judgment is defined as &#8220;decision-making when the range of possible future outcomes, let alone the likelihood of individual outcomes, is unknown,&#8221; it&#8217;s not entirely clear to me how this is differentiated from &#8220;business.&#8221;  I suppose I need to read those Klein-Foss papers more closely.</p>
<p>And by the way, I strongly recommend Shane&#8217;s book, even to those who are specialists in the field.</p>
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