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		<title>By: Cliff Grammich</title>
		<link>http://organizationsandmarkets.com/2008/11/02/needed-a-little-cost-benefit-analysis/#comment-71968</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cliff Grammich]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 17:22:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Only the living voters, Peter . . .]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only the living voters, Peter . . .</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Klein</title>
		<link>http://organizationsandmarkets.com/2008/11/02/needed-a-little-cost-benefit-analysis/#comment-71967</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter Klein]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 17:16:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gary, I&#039;m jealous of Chicagoans -- they can drink coffee all day, with a fresh cup each time they vote!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gary, I&#8217;m jealous of Chicagoans &#8212; they can drink coffee all day, with a fresh cup each time they vote!</p>
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		<title>By: Cliff Grammich</title>
		<link>http://organizationsandmarkets.com/2008/11/02/needed-a-little-cost-benefit-analysis/#comment-71966</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cliff Grammich]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 16:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Voting this morning at a local golf course I learned greens fees have been reduced to $5 for the remainder of the season.  And it&#039;s a gorgeous day here.  I never thought I&#039;d see the cost-benefit calculus of voting benefit me so well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Voting this morning at a local golf course I learned greens fees have been reduced to $5 for the remainder of the season.  And it&#8217;s a gorgeous day here.  I never thought I&#8217;d see the cost-benefit calculus of voting benefit me so well.</p>
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		<title>By: gpeters</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 14:49:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually, that&#039;s good news for Peter. Apparently, Starbucks has changed it&#039;s promotion so that anyone can get a free cup of coffee today, voter or non-voter (in response to the legality questions). How many Starbucks can you visit today?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, that&#8217;s good news for Peter. Apparently, Starbucks has changed it&#8217;s promotion so that anyone can get a free cup of coffee today, voter or non-voter (in response to the legality questions). How many Starbucks can you visit today?</p>
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		<title>By: Brian McCann</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian McCann]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 01:35:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t be tempted, Peter - looks like it may be &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.news10.net/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=50042&amp;catid=2&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;illegal&lt;/a&gt; for Starbucks to be handing out that coffee.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t be tempted, Peter &#8211; looks like it may be <a href="http://www.news10.net/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=50042&amp;catid=2" rel="nofollow">illegal</a> for Starbucks to be handing out that coffee.</p>
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		<title>By: Cliff Grammich</title>
		<link>http://organizationsandmarkets.com/2008/11/02/needed-a-little-cost-benefit-analysis/#comment-71960</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cliff Grammich]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 23:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Goodness, Peter, you wouldn&#039;t trade your sterling non-voter reputation for a cup of Starbucks coffee, would you?  Well, I&#039;ll admit I&#039;ll trade my reputation as a crank, and the local judges can breathe a tad easier, if there is a long line at my polling place tomorrow.  And if there isn&#039;t then I&#039;ll mail you my sticker if you&#039;d like.

Richard, given that the much too ubiquitous tracking polls usually don&#039;t show a candidate exceeding 50 percent until the &quot;undecideds&quot; have dwindled after weeks/months/years of election information overload, I don&#039;t see how to conclude anything but the median voter is a failing student . . .]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Goodness, Peter, you wouldn&#8217;t trade your sterling non-voter reputation for a cup of Starbucks coffee, would you?  Well, I&#8217;ll admit I&#8217;ll trade my reputation as a crank, and the local judges can breathe a tad easier, if there is a long line at my polling place tomorrow.  And if there isn&#8217;t then I&#8217;ll mail you my sticker if you&#8217;d like.</p>
<p>Richard, given that the much too ubiquitous tracking polls usually don&#8217;t show a candidate exceeding 50 percent until the &#8220;undecideds&#8221; have dwindled after weeks/months/years of election information overload, I don&#8217;t see how to conclude anything but the median voter is a failing student . . .</p>
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		<title>By: rlanglois</title>
		<link>http://organizationsandmarkets.com/2008/11/02/needed-a-little-cost-benefit-analysis/#comment-71957</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rlanglois]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 18:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You may also have seen this paper by Bryan Caplan called &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bepress.com/ev/vol5/iss6/art1/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;What if the Median Voter Were a Failing Student?&quot;&lt;/a&gt;  I had thought of sending the link to my students in my &lt;a href=&quot;http://web.uconn.edu/langlois/ECON101/e101syl.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Essentials of Economics&lt;/a&gt; class, but, as I am giving an exam today (the day before election day), that seemed cruel.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You may also have seen this paper by Bryan Caplan called <a href="http://www.bepress.com/ev/vol5/iss6/art1/" rel="nofollow">&#8220;What if the Median Voter Were a Failing Student?&#8221;</a>  I had thought of sending the link to my students in my <a href="http://web.uconn.edu/langlois/ECON101/e101syl.html" rel="nofollow">Essentials of Economics</a> class, but, as I am giving an exam today (the day before election day), that seemed cruel.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Klein</title>
		<link>http://organizationsandmarkets.com/2008/11/02/needed-a-little-cost-benefit-analysis/#comment-71956</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter Klein]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 15:07:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mike Sykuta has just told me about a marginal benefit of voting I didn&#039;t know before: Starbucks will give you a free cup of coffee if you have one of those little stickers. I&#039;m now rethinking my cost-benefit calculus.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike Sykuta has just told me about a marginal benefit of voting I didn&#8217;t know before: Starbucks will give you a free cup of coffee if you have one of those little stickers. I&#8217;m now rethinking my cost-benefit calculus.</p>
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		<title>By: Cliff Grammich</title>
		<link>http://organizationsandmarkets.com/2008/11/02/needed-a-little-cost-benefit-analysis/#comment-71955</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cliff Grammich]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 15:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Peter, don&#039;t forget this classic:  http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2005-02-17/ 

Joe, I probably shouldn&#039;t confess this on Peter&#039;s blog, but, to my knowledge, I&#039;ve missed exactly one election in which I&#039;ve been eligible to vote (and that for a special election in which I correctly surmised the Democrat would win regardless of my vote in an overwhelmingly Democratic district while I was working an 80+-hour per week summer job a quarter-century ago).  And, yeah, I probably will vote tomorrow in Illinois, at least to throw out all the judges, as I&#039;ve voted to do for years.

That said, I confess I also see something in Tyler Cowen&#039;s observation (quoted on Peter&#039;s home page) about voting being done for &quot;self-image.&quot;  (My wife might see even more truth to Cowen&#039;s observation as she contemplates what she might fairly call my increasingly, um, erratic choices.)  I love poring over local election returns at any level not for what they say about candidates but for what they say about how local communities may perceive themselves.

Just one example:  some Illinois community blogs I peruse set up election discussions, and it was astonishing, at least to me, how quickly these devolved into all-McCain/Obama, all the time.  Not only is there no chance anything anybody says on those blogs (or this one?) will affect the presidential outcome, but there is no discussion on things we have a remote chance of affecting, e.g., con-con.  But then I guess an argument over con-con doesn&#039;t compel us to defend our sense of self or society in a way an Obama/McCain argument might.

But, hey, if you&#039;ve a recommendation on con-con, I really would love to hear it.  That is, if Peter can tolerate the possibility his blog might have a one-in-three-million rather than a one-in-sixty-million chance of swaying an election!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter, don&#8217;t forget this classic:  <a href="http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2005-02-17/" rel="nofollow">http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2005-02-17/</a> </p>
<p>Joe, I probably shouldn&#8217;t confess this on Peter&#8217;s blog, but, to my knowledge, I&#8217;ve missed exactly one election in which I&#8217;ve been eligible to vote (and that for a special election in which I correctly surmised the Democrat would win regardless of my vote in an overwhelmingly Democratic district while I was working an 80+-hour per week summer job a quarter-century ago).  And, yeah, I probably will vote tomorrow in Illinois, at least to throw out all the judges, as I&#8217;ve voted to do for years.</p>
<p>That said, I confess I also see something in Tyler Cowen&#8217;s observation (quoted on Peter&#8217;s home page) about voting being done for &#8220;self-image.&#8221;  (My wife might see even more truth to Cowen&#8217;s observation as she contemplates what she might fairly call my increasingly, um, erratic choices.)  I love poring over local election returns at any level not for what they say about candidates but for what they say about how local communities may perceive themselves.</p>
<p>Just one example:  some Illinois community blogs I peruse set up election discussions, and it was astonishing, at least to me, how quickly these devolved into all-McCain/Obama, all the time.  Not only is there no chance anything anybody says on those blogs (or this one?) will affect the presidential outcome, but there is no discussion on things we have a remote chance of affecting, e.g., con-con.  But then I guess an argument over con-con doesn&#8217;t compel us to defend our sense of self or society in a way an Obama/McCain argument might.</p>
<p>But, hey, if you&#8217;ve a recommendation on con-con, I really would love to hear it.  That is, if Peter can tolerate the possibility his blog might have a one-in-three-million rather than a one-in-sixty-million chance of swaying an election!</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Klein</title>
		<link>http://organizationsandmarkets.com/2008/11/02/needed-a-little-cost-benefit-analysis/#comment-71953</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter Klein]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 04:59:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I thought this might provoke a response from one of our fine Illinois readers! 

BTW I&#039;ve never argued that voting per se is &quot;irrational,&quot; only that voting because one believes his vote will affect the outcome is, well, misguided. Voting out of a sense of civic duty, for moral or social or spiritual reasons, or whatever, is perfectly rational, in the economist&#039;s usual sense of satisfying one&#039;s own (subjective) preferences. (In my less tactful moments I&#039;ve referred to &quot;warm fuzzies.&quot;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought this might provoke a response from one of our fine Illinois readers! </p>
<p>BTW I&#8217;ve never argued that voting per se is &#8220;irrational,&#8221; only that voting because one believes his vote will affect the outcome is, well, misguided. Voting out of a sense of civic duty, for moral or social or spiritual reasons, or whatever, is perfectly rational, in the economist&#8217;s usual sense of satisfying one&#8217;s own (subjective) preferences. (In my less tactful moments I&#8217;ve referred to &#8220;warm fuzzies.&#8221;)</p>
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