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		<title>By: Richard Makadok</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Makadok]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 01:08:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The main problem with RBV is that, as a theory of total firm performance, it is woefully incomplete.  It only envisions one way to earn a profit -- competitive advantage.  There are at least three other ways to earn a profit, plus many combinations to consider.  Look for an expanded version of this point in the upcoming JOM special issue on the 20th anniversary of RBV.

A secondary problem with RBV is that, although it explains competitive advantage, it doesn&#039;t necessarily explain strategic behavior.

My two cents.  

Cheers,
Rich]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The main problem with RBV is that, as a theory of total firm performance, it is woefully incomplete.  It only envisions one way to earn a profit &#8212; competitive advantage.  There are at least three other ways to earn a profit, plus many combinations to consider.  Look for an expanded version of this point in the upcoming JOM special issue on the 20th anniversary of RBV.</p>
<p>A secondary problem with RBV is that, although it explains competitive advantage, it doesn&#8217;t necessarily explain strategic behavior.</p>
<p>My two cents.  </p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Rich</p>
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		<title>By: David Hoopes</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Hoopes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 07:41:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is there an RBV without VRIO?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there an RBV without VRIO?</p>
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		<title>By: Bo</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 23:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great piece and great discussion. So, why has the RBV become so prevalent in comtemporary &quot;research&quot; given its poor underpinnings? Well, two answers come to mind:

First, RBV is taken for granted as a valid theory at the firm level. How many reviewers dare question the underlying logic of RBV when used in a study to build arguments for firm-level advantage? More to the point, what alternative (firm-level) theories exist that may better explain why some firms enjoy advantages while others do not? RBV constitutes an &quot;easy out&quot; for many researchers in their pursuit of theoretically &quot;valid&quot;arguments for firm-level antecedents of performance. (Though I have also seen studies that invoke RBV at the national level...)

Second, the RBV seems to be easy to understand for researchers and business people alike. The idea that firms must possess some kind of resources that are VRIO...in order to be successful in competing with others is trivially appealing. As with Porter&#039;s 5 forces, the simple and intuitive nature of the RBV makes it a candidate for overuse...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great piece and great discussion. So, why has the RBV become so prevalent in comtemporary &#8220;research&#8221; given its poor underpinnings? Well, two answers come to mind:</p>
<p>First, RBV is taken for granted as a valid theory at the firm level. How many reviewers dare question the underlying logic of RBV when used in a study to build arguments for firm-level advantage? More to the point, what alternative (firm-level) theories exist that may better explain why some firms enjoy advantages while others do not? RBV constitutes an &#8220;easy out&#8221; for many researchers in their pursuit of theoretically &#8220;valid&#8221;arguments for firm-level antecedents of performance. (Though I have also seen studies that invoke RBV at the national level&#8230;)</p>
<p>Second, the RBV seems to be easy to understand for researchers and business people alike. The idea that firms must possess some kind of resources that are VRIO&#8230;in order to be successful in competing with others is trivially appealing. As with Porter&#8217;s 5 forces, the simple and intuitive nature of the RBV makes it a candidate for overuse&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: JC</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 19:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Which leads on to a more general question about critiquing the current bevy of &#039;theories of the firm&#039;.  

We have the RBV, TCE, principal-agent theory, Alchian &amp; Demsetz&#039;s &#039;team&#039; theory, Grossman &amp; Hart, and so on.  But if these really are theories of the same thing - and they may not be - then what is the relationship between their critiques?  

By critiquing the RBV do we learn something essential about critiquing the others - and thereby where those theorizing the firm might best look next?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which leads on to a more general question about critiquing the current bevy of &#8216;theories of the firm&#8217;.  </p>
<p>We have the RBV, TCE, principal-agent theory, Alchian &amp; Demsetz&#8217;s &#8216;team&#8217; theory, Grossman &amp; Hart, and so on.  But if these really are theories of the same thing &#8211; and they may not be &#8211; then what is the relationship between their critiques?  </p>
<p>By critiquing the RBV do we learn something essential about critiquing the others &#8211; and thereby where those theorizing the firm might best look next?</p>
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		<title>By: David Hoopes</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Hoopes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 17:41:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I consider it most unfortunate that I missed you and Jay at UCLA. Though I did benefit from &quot;trickle down&quot; effect since some students took a while to graduate and what you and Jay had been working on was frequently brought up in doctoral-student discussions. I think your paper is very good and in fact quite important because it is pretty easy to sit on the sidelines and say what the RBV isn&#039;t. And, of course there are some serious problems with the RBV and putting the critiques side-by-side makes sorting through all of this quite helpful.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I consider it most unfortunate that I missed you and Jay at UCLA. Though I did benefit from &#8220;trickle down&#8221; effect since some students took a while to graduate and what you and Jay had been working on was frequently brought up in doctoral-student discussions. I think your paper is very good and in fact quite important because it is pretty easy to sit on the sidelines and say what the RBV isn&#8217;t. And, of course there are some serious problems with the RBV and putting the critiques side-by-side makes sorting through all of this quite helpful.</p>
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		<title>By: JC</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 16:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My goodness Nicolai, if only Jeroen and I had had this paper to hand when we were working on the RBV critique.  It is great - and should be widely read.  

I did not mention the Alchian influence only because it would have sounded like too many OK names.  Of course his work was part of the stew,

The more general point is that, in spite of the comments by Jay that you note in your paper, the UCLA economics department and our part of the BSchool (not yet the Anderson School) were interacting intellectually and very fruitfully in a project to critique Porter&#039;s work.  Such intellectual ferment is VERY unusual, though I did not know that at the time.  Though, given that it was happening, that UCLA failed to become the place that made its mark by fulfilling this project&#039;s promise is another story.

Your paper shows the great value of paying attention to the history of ideas if one wants to get a sense of where to go next.  As you show, RBP1 (static and equilibrium variety) is fruitless and barren.  RBP2 remains un-theorized - rich pickings for a younger generation of scholars i.e. those who come to understand that academic progress - as Kant reminds us - comes only through mounting critiques and not from merely repeating the inanities of their elders.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My goodness Nicolai, if only Jeroen and I had had this paper to hand when we were working on the RBV critique.  It is great &#8211; and should be widely read.  </p>
<p>I did not mention the Alchian influence only because it would have sounded like too many OK names.  Of course his work was part of the stew,</p>
<p>The more general point is that, in spite of the comments by Jay that you note in your paper, the UCLA economics department and our part of the BSchool (not yet the Anderson School) were interacting intellectually and very fruitfully in a project to critique Porter&#8217;s work.  Such intellectual ferment is VERY unusual, though I did not know that at the time.  Though, given that it was happening, that UCLA failed to become the place that made its mark by fulfilling this project&#8217;s promise is another story.</p>
<p>Your paper shows the great value of paying attention to the history of ideas if one wants to get a sense of where to go next.  As you show, RBP1 (static and equilibrium variety) is fruitless and barren.  RBP2 remains un-theorized &#8211; rich pickings for a younger generation of scholars i.e. those who come to understand that academic progress &#8211; as Kant reminds us &#8211; comes only through mounting critiques and not from merely repeating the inanities of their elders.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicolai Foss</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nicolai Foss]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 14:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I discuss some of the historical issue that JC talk about here in this 13 yrs old paper: http://ideas.repec.org/p/aal/abbswp/97-10.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I discuss some of the historical issue that JC talk about here in this 13 yrs old paper: <a href="http://ideas.repec.org/p/aal/abbswp/97-10.html" rel="nofollow">http://ideas.repec.org/p/aal/abbswp/97-10.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: JC</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 14:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Of course you are right David, the attention to the RBV is wildly overdone.  That&#039;s the point!  That is what needs explaining.  Why has the RBV become so prevalent and praised when its underpinnings are wobbly at best?  

The project which Jeroen, Aard and I took on was to see precisely how the RBV could be criticized and opened up so that one could see its entrails, given its inherently closed and dogmatic nature.  It took us over four years and several accepted Academy papers to shake the points into their current shape.  Kind comments notwithstanding - thank you - it is still not right.

As you know, I think the history of ideas revealing and worth debating.  Your story about the history of the RBV would stand against that offered in: 

Barney, J. B. (2005). Where Does Inequality Come From?  The Personal and Intellectual Roots of Resource-Based Theory. In K. G. Smith &amp; M. Hitt (Eds.), Great Minds in Management: The Process of Theory Development (pp. 280-303). Oxford: Oxford University Press.

In this story Jay suggests that in spite of being at Yale while both Nelson and Winter were there, it was not their ideas that influenced his thinking.  

We have also got the matter of dates.  I was at UCLA with Jay in 1982 and writing about the same issues - we (see Jay&#039;s list of those involved) were all talking about them - on the one hand reacting to Porter&#039;s Competitive Strategy (1980) and on the other attending doctoral seminars in the UCLA economics department with Klein and Demsetz and methodology seminars with Kaplan.  Dick Rumelt was part of these conversations and very influential.  Nelson &amp; Winter&#039;s 1982 book was not, nor was Penrose 1959, largely because our discourse was closer to mainstream microeconomics.  Porter and the huge success of his 5-force analysis was our target.

Broadly speaking, we proposed the notion of heterogenous resources (which presupposed inequalities generated by some less-than-completely-efficient means of resource distribution) against Porter&#039;s notion of less-than-completely-efficient markets  as the core of an explanation of a firm&#039;s competitive advantage.

Both Jay and I were writing about corporate culture and the value of distinguishing between what we might now call tangible and intangible resources as possible sources of competitive advantage.  

In this way the idea-map of market-based explanation versus resource based explanation - and tangible resources versus intangible resources was more or less settled for our little community by 1982 and remains more or less unchanged today.  An additional dimension - static versus dynamic - leads on to the dynamic capabilities literature.  Whether that is really an extension and whether or not it works is a discussion for another day.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course you are right David, the attention to the RBV is wildly overdone.  That&#8217;s the point!  That is what needs explaining.  Why has the RBV become so prevalent and praised when its underpinnings are wobbly at best?  </p>
<p>The project which Jeroen, Aard and I took on was to see precisely how the RBV could be criticized and opened up so that one could see its entrails, given its inherently closed and dogmatic nature.  It took us over four years and several accepted Academy papers to shake the points into their current shape.  Kind comments notwithstanding &#8211; thank you &#8211; it is still not right.</p>
<p>As you know, I think the history of ideas revealing and worth debating.  Your story about the history of the RBV would stand against that offered in: </p>
<p>Barney, J. B. (2005). Where Does Inequality Come From?  The Personal and Intellectual Roots of Resource-Based Theory. In K. G. Smith &amp; M. Hitt (Eds.), Great Minds in Management: The Process of Theory Development (pp. 280-303). Oxford: Oxford University Press.</p>
<p>In this story Jay suggests that in spite of being at Yale while both Nelson and Winter were there, it was not their ideas that influenced his thinking.  </p>
<p>We have also got the matter of dates.  I was at UCLA with Jay in 1982 and writing about the same issues &#8211; we (see Jay&#8217;s list of those involved) were all talking about them &#8211; on the one hand reacting to Porter&#8217;s Competitive Strategy (1980) and on the other attending doctoral seminars in the UCLA economics department with Klein and Demsetz and methodology seminars with Kaplan.  Dick Rumelt was part of these conversations and very influential.  Nelson &amp; Winter&#8217;s 1982 book was not, nor was Penrose 1959, largely because our discourse was closer to mainstream microeconomics.  Porter and the huge success of his 5-force analysis was our target.</p>
<p>Broadly speaking, we proposed the notion of heterogenous resources (which presupposed inequalities generated by some less-than-completely-efficient means of resource distribution) against Porter&#8217;s notion of less-than-completely-efficient markets  as the core of an explanation of a firm&#8217;s competitive advantage.</p>
<p>Both Jay and I were writing about corporate culture and the value of distinguishing between what we might now call tangible and intangible resources as possible sources of competitive advantage.  </p>
<p>In this way the idea-map of market-based explanation versus resource based explanation &#8211; and tangible resources versus intangible resources was more or less settled for our little community by 1982 and remains more or less unchanged today.  An additional dimension &#8211; static versus dynamic &#8211; leads on to the dynamic capabilities literature.  Whether that is really an extension and whether or not it works is a discussion for another day.</p>
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		<title>By: David Hoopes</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Hoopes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 20:53:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[PS I think the paper your post is about is quite nicely done.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS I think the paper your post is about is quite nicely done.</p>
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		<title>By: David Hoopes</title>
		<link>http://organizationsandmarkets.com/2010/03/11/assessing-the-critiques-of-the-rbv/#comment-79162</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Hoopes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 06:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think the intense focus on the RBV is misguided. It&#039;s obviously useful because so many scholars use it. Aside from that, I think undue attention is paid to slicing and dicing a few old papers and that is less useful. Further I think everyone forgets that a lot of the momentum in the RBV direction in the late 80s and very early 90s came from Winter, HBS operations stuff, and Teece (esp Teece, Pisano, and Shuen&#039;s early working paper--that was EVERYwhere 89-91), and of course Rumelt 1984 and Lippman and Rumelt. Soon thereafter most of that is left to the side. I&#039;ve tried to politely point out the practical side of looking at the capabilities literature elsewhere recently.That paper reflects that many important observations later attributed to the RBV were made by Nelson and Winter, Teece in JEBO, and the incredible stuff from Kim Clark and friends (Henderson, Fujimoto, Iansiti, Khanna)  in W. Abernathy&#039;s wake.  That&#039;s my story and I&#039;m sticking to it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the intense focus on the RBV is misguided. It&#8217;s obviously useful because so many scholars use it. Aside from that, I think undue attention is paid to slicing and dicing a few old papers and that is less useful. Further I think everyone forgets that a lot of the momentum in the RBV direction in the late 80s and very early 90s came from Winter, HBS operations stuff, and Teece (esp Teece, Pisano, and Shuen&#8217;s early working paper&#8211;that was EVERYwhere 89-91), and of course Rumelt 1984 and Lippman and Rumelt. Soon thereafter most of that is left to the side. I&#8217;ve tried to politely point out the practical side of looking at the capabilities literature elsewhere recently.That paper reflects that many important observations later attributed to the RBV were made by Nelson and Winter, Teece in JEBO, and the incredible stuff from Kim Clark and friends (Henderson, Fujimoto, Iansiti, Khanna)  in W. Abernathy&#8217;s wake.  That&#8217;s my story and I&#8217;m sticking to it.</p>
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