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	<title>Comments on: My Response to Shane (2012)</title>
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		<title>By: Peter Klein</title>
		<link>http://organizationsandmarkets.com/2013/02/24/my-response-to-shane-2012/#comment-94462</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter Klein]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 22:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The trick is to start a new thread on Strategy Profs -- &quot;Why Arguments About Opportunities Are Silly&quot; -- so you can keep needling us without breaking the pledge.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The trick is to start a new thread on Strategy Profs &#8212; &#8220;Why Arguments About Opportunities Are Silly&#8221; &#8212; so you can keep needling us without breaking the pledge.</p>
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		<title>By: stevepostrel</title>
		<link>http://organizationsandmarkets.com/2013/02/24/my-response-to-shane-2012/#comment-94461</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 22:54:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Peter and Steve Phelan are tempting me to break my pledge...must stay strong.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter and Steve Phelan are tempting me to break my pledge&#8230;must stay strong.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Klein</title>
		<link>http://organizationsandmarkets.com/2013/02/24/my-response-to-shane-2012/#comment-94449</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter Klein]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 16:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Steve -- Steve P. -- Steve Postrel (curse you, Phelan!) -- I fear I&#039;m being obtuse, because I continue to miss your point. Of course, reality bats last -- you either have money in the cash drawer or you don&#039;t. (Indeed, David Harper frames the problem in explicitly Popperian terms in his 2002 book: entrepreneurial plans are like Popperian conjectures, falsified or not by the data of reality.) I don&#039;t see how putting some flesh on Knightian judgment -- exploring how entrepreneurs form conjectures, what heuristics they use, how they revise their expectations, and so on -- depends on the assumption that all possible objective configurations of ex post circumstances are somehow &quot;baked in&quot; ex ante. But I am probably just misunderstanding you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve &#8212; Steve P. &#8212; Steve Postrel (curse you, Phelan!) &#8212; I fear I&#8217;m being obtuse, because I continue to miss your point. Of course, reality bats last &#8212; you either have money in the cash drawer or you don&#8217;t. (Indeed, David Harper frames the problem in explicitly Popperian terms in his 2002 book: entrepreneurial plans are like Popperian conjectures, falsified or not by the data of reality.) I don&#8217;t see how putting some flesh on Knightian judgment &#8212; exploring how entrepreneurs form conjectures, what heuristics they use, how they revise their expectations, and so on &#8212; depends on the assumption that all possible objective configurations of ex post circumstances are somehow &#8220;baked in&#8221; ex ante. But I am probably just misunderstanding you.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Phelan</title>
		<link>http://organizationsandmarkets.com/2013/02/24/my-response-to-shane-2012/#comment-94442</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Phelan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 03:16:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[StevePostrel: search invariably involves action rather than speculation - in the same sense that evolution has been called a &#039;blind&#039; search on a fitness landscape.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>StevePostrel: search invariably involves action rather than speculation &#8211; in the same sense that evolution has been called a &#8216;blind&#8217; search on a fitness landscape.</p>
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		<title>By: stevepostrel</title>
		<link>http://organizationsandmarkets.com/2013/02/24/my-response-to-shane-2012/#comment-94440</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 02:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Steve Phelan: (Not breaking my pledge, I swear). Thanks for the reference. I&#039;ll have to look at that stuff. At first blush, it&#039;s hard to see how &quot;search&quot; that is of the armchair/whiteboard/coffeeshop variety could perturb the landscape appreciably, but I guess tentative investments and/or public relations efforts might actually move things around. So then it comes down to what one means by &quot;search.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve Phelan: (Not breaking my pledge, I swear). Thanks for the reference. I&#8217;ll have to look at that stuff. At first blush, it&#8217;s hard to see how &#8220;search&#8221; that is of the armchair/whiteboard/coffeeshop variety could perturb the landscape appreciably, but I guess tentative investments and/or public relations efforts might actually move things around. So then it comes down to what one means by &#8220;search.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Phelan</title>
		<link>http://organizationsandmarkets.com/2013/02/24/my-response-to-shane-2012/#comment-94437</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Phelan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Mar 2013 23:14:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[stevepostrel, much of the current thinking in entrepreneurship seems to imply a search on a &#039;dancing fitness landscape&#039; (see Beinhocker). Under such conditions, it may not be possible to provide ex ante rules to identify &#039;true&#039; opportunities. Instead, we must use process rules to search the landscape. This is because the act of search itself deforms the landscape.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>stevepostrel, much of the current thinking in entrepreneurship seems to imply a search on a &#8216;dancing fitness landscape&#8217; (see Beinhocker). Under such conditions, it may not be possible to provide ex ante rules to identify &#8216;true&#8217; opportunities. Instead, we must use process rules to search the landscape. This is because the act of search itself deforms the landscape.</p>
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		<title>By: stevepostrel</title>
		<link>http://organizationsandmarkets.com/2013/02/24/my-response-to-shane-2012/#comment-94436</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Mar 2013 23:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I apologize for quibbling--I promise to drop it after this--but the ontological point is crucial. The heuristics and tools of business judgment can only be developed on the basis that any business idea that is sufficiently well defined has baked into it a hidden but unalterable profit outcome (possibly a probability distribution of outcomes). It&#039;s a &quot;reality bats last&quot; perspective. There are two independent and equally important implications of this ontological understanding of opportunity:

First, one goes backward from ontics to epistemics by asking &quot;What would the data-generating process look like if this idea were really an opportunity?&quot; It&#039;s conceptually similar to a likelihood function--what should the evidence look like if the hypothesis were true? 

Second, &quot;opportunities&quot;--untried business ideas that would be profitable--represent a distinct set of &quot;objects&quot; about which we may be able to make scientific statements. The set of true business opportunities may be usefully constrained by thinking about necessary structural conditions for existence. These would include reasons why an opportunity hasn&#039;t been taken already and restrictions on imitation if it initially were profitable. Such statements might enable us to rule out (or severely down-rate the prospects of) some ideas for membership in the set of opportunities.

If improvements in ex ante classification cannot be accomplished in these ways, which depend entirely on the point that business ideas have success or failure built into them regardless of our beliefs, then I don&#039;t see how we can help entrepreneurs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I apologize for quibbling&#8211;I promise to drop it after this&#8211;but the ontological point is crucial. The heuristics and tools of business judgment can only be developed on the basis that any business idea that is sufficiently well defined has baked into it a hidden but unalterable profit outcome (possibly a probability distribution of outcomes). It&#8217;s a &#8220;reality bats last&#8221; perspective. There are two independent and equally important implications of this ontological understanding of opportunity:</p>
<p>First, one goes backward from ontics to epistemics by asking &#8220;What would the data-generating process look like if this idea were really an opportunity?&#8221; It&#8217;s conceptually similar to a likelihood function&#8211;what should the evidence look like if the hypothesis were true? </p>
<p>Second, &#8220;opportunities&#8221;&#8211;untried business ideas that would be profitable&#8211;represent a distinct set of &#8220;objects&#8221; about which we may be able to make scientific statements. The set of true business opportunities may be usefully constrained by thinking about necessary structural conditions for existence. These would include reasons why an opportunity hasn&#8217;t been taken already and restrictions on imitation if it initially were profitable. Such statements might enable us to rule out (or severely down-rate the prospects of) some ideas for membership in the set of opportunities.</p>
<p>If improvements in ex ante classification cannot be accomplished in these ways, which depend entirely on the point that business ideas have success or failure built into them regardless of our beliefs, then I don&#8217;t see how we can help entrepreneurs.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Klein</title>
		<link>http://organizationsandmarkets.com/2013/02/24/my-response-to-shane-2012/#comment-94421</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter Klein]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Mar 2013 01:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Steve, I don&#039;t disagree with the substance of your comment at all, maybe just your ontological framing. Sure, call them candidate opportunities, or potential opportunities, or imagined opportunities, or -- even better -- business ideas, profit scenarios, projects that might make money, or some other term that isn&#039;t ontologically misleading -- and develop the heuristics and decision-making tools you describe. Imagining and evaluating these potential future configurations of demand, competitor behavior, regulator behavior, etc., is exactly what the exercise of judgment entails.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve, I don&#8217;t disagree with the substance of your comment at all, maybe just your ontological framing. Sure, call them candidate opportunities, or potential opportunities, or imagined opportunities, or &#8212; even better &#8212; business ideas, profit scenarios, projects that might make money, or some other term that isn&#8217;t ontologically misleading &#8212; and develop the heuristics and decision-making tools you describe. Imagining and evaluating these potential future configurations of demand, competitor behavior, regulator behavior, etc., is exactly what the exercise of judgment entails.</p>
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		<title>By: stevepostrel</title>
		<link>http://organizationsandmarkets.com/2013/02/24/my-response-to-shane-2012/#comment-94420</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Mar 2013 01:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Peter:

We probably should have a word like &quot;candidate&quot; to describe the category of apparent dollar bills lying on the ground that would either be &quot;opportunities&quot; or not. 

I think the ontological opportunity construct (under whatever name) could be useful for refining judgment, as I said above:

&quot;The opportunity construct could be useful for refining that judgment by developing taxonomies of success scenarios, i.e. different kinds of hypothetical configurations of demand, technology, and institutions that would make investments successful. Such a taxonomy might improve the search process by creating patterns to emulate or seek out. (You also might be able to do the same for mirages and booby traps.)&quot;

Another way to think of it is that many &quot;candidate opportunities&quot; come to us as putative &quot;gaps&quot;or &quot;holes&quot; in what is currently available in the market. (That&#039;s reasonably consistent with the Kirznerian way of looking at things.) One class of such candidates was described in my old &quot;Design Puzzles&quot; post on this blog, but there are also non-design versions of this--what look like unsolved problems paired with unused or newly invented solutions. True opportunities--currently unexploited chances for creating and capturing economic surplus--might have distinct attributes that distinguish or probabilistically indicate them. For example, you would want a coherent account of why they hadn&#039;t already been filled if they really were opportunities.

So when you see one of these candidates, is there any kind of analysis you can do to better forecast whether it really is an opportunity before making sunk investments? If not, then we don&#039;t have much to say about helping entrepreneurs. If yes, which probably only means weeding out the lower tail of mistakes, then the way to do it is by &quot;reverse-engineering&quot; scenarios in which the thing is a real opportunity versus when it is a mirage or a booby-trap to see what observable characteristics each of these is likely to have. 

In other words, I think there might be useful patterns, based on the economic requirements for the existence of an opportunity, that could somewhat help to ex ante improve the odds of guessing right (&quot;judging&quot;) investment prospects. That means the opportunity construct would be essential under whatever name one prefers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter:</p>
<p>We probably should have a word like &#8220;candidate&#8221; to describe the category of apparent dollar bills lying on the ground that would either be &#8220;opportunities&#8221; or not. </p>
<p>I think the ontological opportunity construct (under whatever name) could be useful for refining judgment, as I said above:</p>
<p>&#8220;The opportunity construct could be useful for refining that judgment by developing taxonomies of success scenarios, i.e. different kinds of hypothetical configurations of demand, technology, and institutions that would make investments successful. Such a taxonomy might improve the search process by creating patterns to emulate or seek out. (You also might be able to do the same for mirages and booby traps.)&#8221;</p>
<p>Another way to think of it is that many &#8220;candidate opportunities&#8221; come to us as putative &#8220;gaps&#8221;or &#8220;holes&#8221; in what is currently available in the market. (That&#8217;s reasonably consistent with the Kirznerian way of looking at things.) One class of such candidates was described in my old &#8220;Design Puzzles&#8221; post on this blog, but there are also non-design versions of this&#8211;what look like unsolved problems paired with unused or newly invented solutions. True opportunities&#8211;currently unexploited chances for creating and capturing economic surplus&#8211;might have distinct attributes that distinguish or probabilistically indicate them. For example, you would want a coherent account of why they hadn&#8217;t already been filled if they really were opportunities.</p>
<p>So when you see one of these candidates, is there any kind of analysis you can do to better forecast whether it really is an opportunity before making sunk investments? If not, then we don&#8217;t have much to say about helping entrepreneurs. If yes, which probably only means weeding out the lower tail of mistakes, then the way to do it is by &#8220;reverse-engineering&#8221; scenarios in which the thing is a real opportunity versus when it is a mirage or a booby-trap to see what observable characteristics each of these is likely to have. </p>
<p>In other words, I think there might be useful patterns, based on the economic requirements for the existence of an opportunity, that could somewhat help to ex ante improve the odds of guessing right (&#8220;judging&#8221;) investment prospects. That means the opportunity construct would be essential under whatever name one prefers.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy</title>
		<link>http://organizationsandmarkets.com/2013/02/24/my-response-to-shane-2012/#comment-94419</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Mar 2013 17:30:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One can be specific here. At the levels of method and methodology, is the opportunity construct necessary or sufficient in explanation or prediction? At the level of any successful or unsuccessful entrepreneurial venture (as measured by economic returns to the entrepreneurial function), is the opportunity construct necessary or sufficient to predict ex ante or explain ex post the outcome? 

See Shane&#039;s Air DaVinci example in the 2012 reflection piece, as a place to begin.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One can be specific here. At the levels of method and methodology, is the opportunity construct necessary or sufficient in explanation or prediction? At the level of any successful or unsuccessful entrepreneurial venture (as measured by economic returns to the entrepreneurial function), is the opportunity construct necessary or sufficient to predict ex ante or explain ex post the outcome? </p>
<p>See Shane&#8217;s Air DaVinci example in the 2012 reflection piece, as a place to begin.</p>
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