Skepticism and Greed
8 May 2009 at 11:58 am Dick Langlois 3 comments
| Dick Langlois |
One of my University colleagues, who works in instructional technology, sent a few of us a post from a mailing list-blog at Stanford called Tomorrow’s Professor. The site has a lot of interesting stuff on teaching and the academy, which O&M readers may find interesting. But this particular post, reprinted from a blog at the Carnegie Foundation for the Advancement of Teaching, prompted me to send in a response. Here is what I said. (Take a look at the original post, but I think you can get the idea from my comment.)
I certainly endorse what I take to be the central idea of post 944 — that students of business and economics would benefit from a liberal education.
Having said that, however, let me also note that I think the post gets things exactly — and perhaps dangerously — backwards in many ways. It is a constant trope in the popular press that the idea of “free markets” is some kind of dogma among economists (and perhaps society more broadly). In fact, economists believe that markets exist only within institutional structures, and economics — even so-called free-market economics — is actually about getting the institutions right, not about letting people do whatever they want.
In my view, moreover, economists are the real skeptics in the academy. Despite his (marketing) claim to being a “rogue” economist, Steve Levitt of Freakonomics fame is actually a better model of what most economists do than is Ben Bernanke or Alan Greenspan. Unlike most other academics, economists are rewarded for taking skeptical and iconoclastic positions, at least when they can back those positions up with hard data and clear analysis.
By contrast, few people outside of economics departments or business schools have any understanding whatever about how and when — or even whether — individual action can lead to beneficial unintended consequences. Economics is actually counter-intuitive in many ways. Humans evolved in small bands of hunter-gatherers, and as a result our intuitions about how a large open society operates are often wrong or backwards.
For all these reasons, it seems to me odd to suggest that economists (and students of economics) are dogmatic and would be made more skeptical and thoughtful about the economy by studying other liberal fields. In my experience, it’s rather the opposite. (Which is not to say, of course, that students won’t benefit in many ways from studying other fields.)
The post itself is a case in point. It starts out in the right direction with a marvelous story from Keynes about the nature of the money supply. But then it goes on to talk about “greed” as the central issue, ending with a quote from Roosevelt that “heedless self-interest” is bad economics. In fact, however, it is pointing to “greed” that is unexamined dogma. Why exactly has the level of greed changed over time? Is that really an explanation of anything? In stark contrast, many professional economists (including such serious scholars of the crisis as John Taylor and Karl Case) would point out that the most fundamental cause of the crisis was the expansive monetary policy of the Fed, which pumped money into the system and caused an asset bubble. Our hunter-gatherer ancestors endowed us with intuitions about greedy individuals; but they didn’t leave us intuitions about how a fiat money system works in a huge economy of non-face-to-face exchange. That we have to learn in an economics course.
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CV Harquail | 8 May 2009 at 9:03 pm
Hi Dick,
I really appreciate you reminding us/readers/others that what ‘free market’ means to a trained economist and what it means to the average person (i.e., non-economist) are two different things.
There is an important difference between a ‘free market within an institutional setting’ (in other words, within a larger system of constraints and incentives) and a free market where for-profit organizations run roughshod over everything else.
Unfortunately for thoughtful discourse and also for useful conversations about governance and corporate behavior, too many people think that the absolutely unfettered market is the best, and that this is what economists recommend . So, these folks argue that the less “regulation”, the less structure, the better. Always.
This misunderstanding is reinforced by a lazy/untrained media, but is cause by poor and inadequate education at the undergraduate level and in MBA programs.
Since I didn’t read the post that you are replying to, I don’t know whether it was advocating for a liberal arts education to mitigate against the teaching of economics as properly understood (anti-economics) or whether the concern was to make sure that economics is taught well enough that it *IS* properly understood.
Students also need to know and be taught more about the larger “institutional structures” within which markets function, so that they can have sensible conversations about how to get these institutions right . That conversation, when it happens, too often happens in a downright uninformed (dare I say ignorant) way.
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michael webster | 9 May 2009 at 10:02 pm
I read the original post.
It is gratifying to read that some economists actually think that the metaphor of “invisible hand” need very visible institutions.
But, when I read economic textbooks I don’t see a great deal of emphasis on institutions and their history. Even John McMillan’s great book, Reinventing the Bazaar, was short on explicit institutional details.
So what should I read? Thanks in advance.
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David G. Hoopes | 10 May 2009 at 12:52 pm
It may be worth pointing out that many MBAs have undergraduates other than business. I think many of us in the O&M circle have undergraduate degrees in arts, social sciences, and sciences. Also, by observing the interests of O&M contributors it is obvious that on their own or via undergrad academics most have knowledge, interests, and experience far beyond the boundaries of a vocational degree.
I think CV’s comment would have more traction with some more specifics. Some quotes from economists about unfettered free markets could focus the discussion and make CV’s comments more meaningful.
Aside: Clinton was a better advocate for free markets than was Bush Jr..
The idea that the recent Bush administration lead a free market set of policies is simply wrong. Big spending, government expansion, and even some trade barriers characterize the last eight years (supported by a free spending Republican-lead congress for six years).
Great post Dick.